Carving out the time to stay fit is tough for lots of lawyers who spend long workdays sitting on their duffs.

In this Legal Speak episode, we talk with Jonathan Jordan, a fitness trainer at Equinox in San Francisco and corporate wellness consultant. Jordan, also a columnist, works with a number of busy lawyers who want to combat the effects of their high-stress, but sedentary jobs.

As he explains, even small changes in daily routines can make a difference. And when that happens, lawyers—and their firms—reap the benefits.

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