Although a judge has decided differently, former prosecutor John “Jack” Quatman had no intention of shaming the Alameda County district attorney’s office with charges of jury bias, his wife, also a lawyer, said Wednesday.

In an interview, Phyllis Quatman said “getting back” at Alameda County DA Tom Orloff was the furthest thing from her husband’s mind when he casually mentioned to California Appellate Project attorney Scott Kauffman a conversation he said he’d had with the late Judge Stanley Golde.