Faith Gay, who left Quinn Emanuel Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan earlier this year, is determined to create a “new civilization in law” at her firm Selendy & Gay. As part of a podcast series focused on the successes and struggles of prominent women lawyers, The Careerist columnist Vivia Chen speaks with Gay to find out what, exactly, that means.

Gay’s decision to leave Big Law, how she and the other partners at her new firm aim to create a collaborative dynamic, and how, in her spare time, she’s studying at Yale to become a Presbyterian minister.

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