The National Law Journal with DC News from Legal Times

30 Day Free Trial

National News
Washington News
  • Home
  • Legal Business
  • Law Schools
  • Columns
  • Verdicts
  • Opinion
  • Video Center
  • Blog

NLJ Home > News > A possible head start for law students

Font Size: increase font decrease font

Previous

  • 1
  • 2

A possible head start for law students

December 3, 2012

  •    
  •    
  •    
  •       Comments (1)
 

"My fear is that it will negatively impact the third year of the educational experience and essentially turn the third year into a bar prep course," said Arizona assistant secretary of state Jim Drake, who sits on the committee. "I don't think that's the right way to go. I see this more as a marketing idea." Getting students admitted to the bar sooner can only help the law schools' rate of placing graduates in legal jobs, and thus their U.S. News & World Report rankings, he added.

Both Miller and Sylvester discounted Georgia's experience. For one thing, law schools there did not modify their curricula to help students balance exam prep and class work. Moreover, the economic circumstances are vastly different. "At that point in time, applications to law school were going up; demand was going up," Miller said. "Law schools were in a golden era — they could get tuition dollars and outside support. They could hire faculty and give scholarships. This is a wildly different era both for legal education and legal practice, and we think we're responding to this era, now."

The Arizona Supreme Court put off the proposal in August and submitted 10 questions to the law schools, seeking clarification about how they would identify eligible students and manage the program. The schools clarified that students would have to have completed 90 percent of their required credits; would be restricted to two semester hours of course work in January and February as they prepare for the exam; and could only have eight semester credits left to complete following the exam. (Typical course loads range between 14 and 17 credits, administrators said, although 3Ls often take fewer hours during their final semesters.) The students consequently would have to squeeze larger course loads into their 2L years.

DOUBTS ASSUAGED

The revised proposal was enough to assuage the advisory committee's doubts — in November, it endorsed the concept in a 4-3 vote, although Drake said he and three other opponents were unable to attend the meeting.

Even if the court signs off on the proposal, not all students will want to take the bar exam early. The University of Arizona recently polled 2Ls and found that 44 students — 32 percent of the class — would sit for the bar exam in February if that were possible. Administrators at Arizona State likewise anticipate a relatively small percentage of students would opt in.

The fact that Arizona earlier this year became one of seven Uniform Bar Exam (UBE) states creates an interesting angle to the discussion. In theory, 3Ls seeking admission to any UBE state could take the February bar in Arizona, assuming they meet the coursework criteria, and be admitted as soon as they graduate. However, different states have different admissions rules, and not all UBE states would necessarily recognize a bar exam taken before graduation, Miller said.

If Arizona does begin allowing 3Ls to take the exam early — potentially as early as the February 2014 sitting — Chin expects other states to take notice. "I haven't met anybody who thinks students aren't ready to take the bar after five semesters," he said. "Given that, why do we make students incur this additional expense? I think there will be a lot of interest from other states looking to follow suit."

Karen Sloan can be contacted at ksloan@alm.com.

Previous

  • 1
  • 2


Subscribe to The National Law Journal

You must be signed in to comment on an article

 

Reader Comments

  • Research?

    December 07, 2012 11:21 AM

    According to Chart 1 of the National Conference of Bar Examiners/ABA Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar Comprehensive Guide to Bar Admission
    Requirements 2012, there are several states that allow for students to sit before graduation (Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, etc. . .) I have a colleague who structured that last spring semester to take 2 courses and an externship that began in March to sit for the Indiana bar exam so he was licensed when he graduated. Most law schools could do this by offering credit-based bar review support in January/February and then short, intensive courses or externships in March/April so that students could still be full-time. Would it take some creativity? Absolutely. Is there the political will/resources within law schools? Sometimes.

Comments are not moderated. To report offensive comments, click here.

Post a Comment »
Find similar content

Companies, agencies mentioned

    
  • National Conference
  • United States of America News
  • Davis School
  • Rogers Communications College
  • Sandra Day O'Connor College
  • Miller's Inc.
  • University of Arizona
  • Phoenix, Arizona School
  • University of California
  • Supreme Court
  • Arizona State University

Key categories

    
  • Law Schools

Most viewed stories

    
  1. Law for Laymen
    •      
  2. 'U.S. News' Top Law Schools Fall Short on Diversity
    •      
  3. Harvard Law Opens Applications to Juniors
    •      
  4. Suspension for Spurned Attorney Who Waged Vendetta
    •      
  5. A Place for Lawyers to Learn Executive Skills
    •      
lawjobs.com

TOP JOBS

MORE JOBS

POST A JOB

From the Law.com Network

The General Counsel and the Compensation Committee

Your Company's Been Hacked -- What Comes Next?

Simpson Helps Yahoo, Tumblr Connect for $1 Billion Deal

Kasowitz Benson Launches in Los Angeles

Contrite Companies Can Win Forgiveness in Bribery Cases
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Plaintiffs Want to See Toyota's 'Crown Jewels'
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Collaboration Is Key to Defending Cyberattacks

Stanford Law Builds on Role as Legal Tech Incubator

Prolific ADA Plaintiff Faces Nemesis in Harassment Suit

Ullyot Exit Closes Chapter for Facebook

South Florida Attorneys Lead Force-Placed Insurance Fight

Suit Names Missing Attorney Timothy McCabe For Alleged Fraud
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Circuit Voids $3 Million Judgment Against 'Girls Gone Wild' Producer

Judge Says Boston Bombings Had No Effect on Terrorist Sentences
  •      
    • Subscription Required

The Affordable State-Specific Practice Solution
Available in NY, NJ, PA and CT editions - research, draft and prepare even the most complex cases with ease.

Judge Declines to Block Act-of-War Defense in 9/11 Case
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Panel Finds 'Excessive' City Fine for Poaching Antenna From Trash
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Lawsuit Testing Federal Porn Regulation Allowed to Survive

Ex-College QB Can Press Claim Over EA's Video Game
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Law Schools Are Looking Beyond LSATs, Says Mich. Dean

Is Freezing Your Eggs the Solution?

Advising Clients on Weather and the Workplace
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Texas Sues BP, Transocean, Halliburton, Anadarko Entities
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Brooks Looks To Political Ally For Criminal Defense

Attorney Fee Hearing in Waffle House Sex Case Heats Up
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Corporate Bribery Case Part Of National Trend
  •      
    • Subscription Required

Court Continues To Grant Lawyers Fraud Immunity
  •      
    • Subscription Required

 
  • About |
  • ALM Properties |
  • ALM Reprints |
  • Customer Support |
  • Privacy Policy |
  • Terms & Conditions |
  • ALM User License Agreement
ALM Media